Both the pandemic policies and the “climate crisis” ones are based on flawed and easily manipulated statistics and modeling, says Emeritus Professor Norman Fenton of the School of Electronic Engineering and Computer Sciences at Queen Mary University of London.

In this interview with The New American, Prof. Fenton also talks about the possible climate change lockdowns and practical consequences of the Zero Net policies that would lead, “apart from the extreme limitations on personal freedom and travel, [also to] either a colder and hungrier population … or massive depopulation.”

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The conversation took place at the Better Way Conference in Bath, U.K. organized by the  World Council for Health on June 2-4.