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The autocratic response to Covid by governments across the West and around the world was not a traditional “public health” operation but rather a military and national security program, according to a new report documenting the evidence from across Europe and North America. On this episode of Behind The Deep State with The New American magazine Senior Editor Alex Newman, two longtime researchers behind “The COVID Dossier,” Brownstone Institute Fellow Debbie Lerman and longtime pharma consultant Sasha Latypova, break down their findings. The implications of the evidence compiled here are staggering and suggest that humanity is still a long way from getting at the truth of what happened in early 2020.
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00;00;05;01 - 00;00;26;00
Speaker 1
Covid, it turns out, was not a public health event. Turns out it was actually a military program. And we have two incredible guests joining us who've done some groundbreaking research on the details on what this means. I mean, a lot of us saw the Department of Defense being involved. Like, that's weird, but now it gets way, way weirder.
00;00;26;03 - 00;00;45;09
Speaker 1
Thank you for joining us today on Behind the Deep State. I'm your host, Alex Newman, senior editor at the New American Magazine. It's wonderful to be with you today. We're so grateful that you could tune in and our guests today. I'll introduce them before we start talking about this report. But we've got with us, some really, really fascinating people.
00;00;45;09 - 00;01;06;12
Speaker 1
First we have, Debbie Lehrman. She is a researcher, a writer on Substack, and she's also a fellow at the Brownstone Institute, a very, very important organization that's been kind of at the at the forefront of exposing some of this weird stuff going on with Covid. She has a degree from Harvard, but, as I told her before we started, we won't hold that against her.
00;01;06;12 - 00;01;24;21
Speaker 1
I have plenty of decent people have gone to Harvard in the past. And then, and then, our other guest, she's actually a returning guest on this program we've had her on before. Her name is Sasha Latte. POF. And, she has a very, very impressive biography. We'd have to spend five minutes going through the whole thing, but a couple of highlights.
00;01;25;04 - 00;01;58;12
Speaker 1
She's got an MBA from Dartmouth. She spent 25 years of her professional career in health care technology, medical device and pharmaceutical research and development industries, both in the United States and Europe. She's worked in, drug development across various therapeutic areas, including infectious disease, drug development. She didn't work on that vaccines. But, later in her career, she owned and managed several contract research organizations where they, did contract work for over 60 pharmaceutical companies worldwide, including, incidentally, Pfizer, one of the major clients and R&D partners.
00;01;58;17 - 00;02;17;11
Speaker 1
She's got a lot of experience in this area. She's spent a lot of time interacting with the FDA, the EMA, the European Medicines Agency, the Japanese version of the FDA, and regulators across the board. So, she really has a lot of experience in here. And she has brought out a lot of the groundbreaking information and research that we need to know.
00;02;17;22 - 00;02;36;19
Speaker 1
She was, became concerned about what was going on with the mRNA gene therapies masquerading as vaccines and started digging. And, what she found has been incredible. She's developed quite a reputation over the last few years for exposing some of this, not just with the vaccines, but with the lies. And, she also has a wonderful Substack that I subscribe to.
00;02;36;19 - 00;03;00;05
Speaker 1
It's called Due Diligence and Art. I encourage you guys to take a look at that. Now, these two ladies have a new report out, the Covid dossier. It is a record of military and intelligence coordination behind the global Covid event. And folks, I'm telling you, it's it is a bombshell. Let's start with you, Sasha. Thank you so much for joining us.
00;03;00;05 - 00;03;11;06
Speaker 1
And, Debbie, also, thank you for joining us. You say this was a military operation. And I think for some people that's just like outside the realm of what they can even fathom. What do you mean by that? This was a military operation.
00;05;27;22 - 00;07;50;04
Speaker 1
Maximum. Well, let's go over to Debbie now. Debbie, I'm really curious about the NATO involvement here in this report. You guys talk about what happened on February 4th this, declaration was issued for, CBR, and which I guess has to do with weapons of mass destruction emergencies. Talk to us about the documents and the information that you found that add a whole new layer of to the mystery here.
00;07;50;07 - 00;10;58;18
Speaker 1
So this is fascinating. I mean, what does that actually mean to a layman? What's the difference here between, like, a public health crisis and a national security crisis? And does this mean, for example, that they thought this was a bioweapon attack? Does this mean that they were in on it? I mean, what is this? What are the implications of this?
00;10;58;21 - 00;11;23;19
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. And when I look at your report, what's so striking to me is this wasn't just the United States. The same thing you've got here. The people who were leading this, the agencies in Germany and the Netherlands and Canada, in Australia, in, the United Kingdom, in Italy. Clearly somebody was coordinating all of this. It's absolutely fascinating.
00;11;24;08 - 00;11;42;21
Speaker 1
Before we wrap today, I definitely want to ask y'all's thoughts about Donald Trump. You know, was he, a victim here? Was he deceived? What do you think he knew about all of this? But, I want to go back to you, Sasha. What do you make of this? I mean, what is the significance of this for an average American?
00;11;42;21 - 00;14;11;26
Speaker 1
And looking at what the what the congressional Select Committee on the Covid, right, looking at what the what they put out is silliness that the vaccine saved millions of lives and stuff. What do you think about the the information that's been given to the public so far by Congress, by the fake media? What else needs to happen going forward here?
00;16;28;22 - 00;16;52;27
Speaker 1
Well, you know. So so I, I, I'll confess, I'm a big fan of, unopposed Luna. Luna. I think, she's got a very solid record in Congress. And so I've got to ask you this. Is there a possible innocent explanation? I mean, is there any way that that all this could have happened legitimately? There was nothing nefarious.
00;16;52;27 - 00;18;36;05
Speaker 1
These guys looked at this virus and said, oh, this looks like it might be a bioweapon. Gotta get ready. Because if this kills a whole bunch of our people were injured, is there any way that there could be an innocent explanation to this is my question.
00;18;47;16 - 00;19;29;20
Speaker 1
Well.
00;19;29;22 - 00;19;45;24
Speaker 1
Yeah. That's a very good question. Yeah.
00;19;45;27 - 00;20;02;26
Speaker 1
Yeah. No, I, I agree that's, very, very suspicious because I could understand maybe an abundance of caution. Maybe you don't want to tell the public so that there's no stampedes and societal meltdown. But, yeah, if they really thought that, it'd be very weird to hide that from us for a month and a half and just say, yeah, just wash your hands, guys.
00;20;02;26 - 00;20;23;23
Speaker 1
No big deal. Very, very concerning. I want to ask you, and we're running out of time so quickly, and there's so many things I want to ask. I'll start with one that is, I think, at the forefront of a lot of people's mind right now. We've we've seen some bizarre statements by, people like, Peter Hotez or whatever his name is, that there's gonna be a lot of new pandemics as soon as Trump gets in the white House.
00;20;24;00 - 00;21;09;19
Speaker 1
We've seen this craziness with the bird flu. We've seen, all these pandemic preparedness things like the Cepi down in Rio and the bird flu summit in Washington, D.C.. Are we at risk of something like Covid hitting us again in the next few years?
00;21;09;22 - 00;21;18;24
Speaker 1
Here, too. Same deal. Yeah. In Florida.
00;21;18;26 - 00;21;51;29
Speaker 1
Yeah.
00;21;52;01 - 00;22;08;21
Speaker 1
That is terrifying. Absolutely terrifying. We're down to just about five minutes left, so I've got to ask about Trump. I mean, I know none of us can, you know. Know what's in a man's heart. Know what a man is thinking. But, based on what you have seen with these military preparations, I mean, Trump, of course, is the commander in chief of the US military.
00;22;08;21 - 00;22;56;07
Speaker 1
He was when this stuff was happening. Do you think he was deceived? Was he misled? Was he a conscious participant? What could he have or should he have done different to try to protect us from what followed?
00;22;56;09 - 00;23;01;23
Speaker 1
Yeah.
00;23;01;26 - 00;23;49;10
Speaker 1
Yeah.
00;23;49;13 - 00;23;54;05
Speaker 1
Yeah.
00;23;54;07 - 00;24;14;23
Speaker 1
All right. And then they took away his accounts, and you can't post anymore. And this is totally, totally crazy what we just lived through. I can't I can't even wrap my head around that. Guys, we're down to just a few minutes left, going forward. Right. There are new people now. Yeah. Approved by the Senate running the US Department of Defense, running the Department of Justice.
00;24;15;16 - 00;24;32;08
Speaker 1
Where should we be going? Here. How do we, Of course, Fauci has a pardon, but we know there's at least 17 state attorneys general looking at criminal charges here. But what can and should be done to not not just bring accountability for what happened to us, but to make sure something like that never happens again. We need a new investigation.
00;24;32;08 - 00;25;07;21
Speaker 1
Where does it even begin? Let's start with you, Sasha.
00;25;17;24 - 00;25;24;09
Speaker 1
Debbie. Go ahead.
00;25;24;11 - 00;25;54;22
Speaker 1
Okay. And so who needs to be punished? I mean, Fauci, okay, a whole bunch of these guys got, pardons, but we've got, you know, Robert F Kennedy, hopefully at HHS, we've got, Pete Haggis at the Department of Defense, Pam Bondi. And I know there's some really good prosecutors right now working at DOJ. Who do we go after first and how?
00;26;02;20 - 00;26;21;07
Speaker 1
Yeah.
00;26;21;10 - 00;26;41;25
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. My guess is the paper shredders in Washington, DC are running 24 seven right now trying to get get rid of evidence here. This is absolutely fascinating. I do want to encourage folks to follow both of you, and your work on Substack. Debbie, let's start with you. How do people follow your work was the easiest way.
00;26;41;25 - 00;26;42;28
Speaker 1
Are you on social media?
00;26;51;19 - 00;26;57;08
Speaker 1
Excellent work. Thank you guys for doing this. Sasha, how about you? You have the excellent Substack as well. Are you on any social media?
00;27;02;04 - 00;27;19;14
Speaker 1
What was the easiest way for somebody to get Ahold of this report and send it to their member of Congress or their local sheriff, their state attorney general? How do people get this?
00;27;19;16 - 00;27;29;01
Speaker 1
Excellent.
00;27;29;03 - 00;27;45;19
Speaker 1
Absolutely, folks, that is a really easy take away from this grab. The dossier is called the Covid dossier. You can find it on either of their social acts. We'll put it out as well and send it to your sheriff. Send it to your state attorney general. Send it to your congressman. Send it to your U.S. senators and say we demand answers.
00;27;46;02 - 00;28;00;08
Speaker 1
We're almost out of time here, folks, but I do hope you'll go follow these two ladies. They spent a lot of time researching this stuff that, really needs to be done. And you know what? U.S. aid is not writing any of us any big checks. So get over there. Follow their work, if you can support it.
00;28;00;08 - 00;28;15;20
Speaker 1
And also take this information and do something with it. Don't just throw stuff at your TV and huff and puff. We've got to get busy. We've got to make sure they never do something like that to us again. It is absolutely essential. Our freedom is on the line. Our country is on the line. And I want to thank you for tuning in.
00;28;15;21 - 00;28;25;22
Speaker 1
This is behind the deep state. I am your host, Alex Newman, senior editor at the New american.com, The New American. If you're not signed up for the magazine, do so. And until next time, God bless you all.